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CORRESPONDENCE is a page for our edited discourse. Once a subject seems to be a more or less permanent one, then we need to create a either a THREAD or a NEW PAGE. While our main means of communication is via our gmail account, tmalgaloildiesel@gmail.com, we need to start using this platform for discussing our respective core ideas. When I get our JOINT VENTURE wikiweb up, then we can almost dispense with email and go exclusively to the page and sub-page system, keeping order by cross-linking forwards and backwards and a site map showing the pages and threads. Please use the separator ===== to indicate breaks between correspondence of different dates. The word(s) highlighted in GREEN indicate there is a thread started below,. Words highlighted in BLUE indicate a hyperlink to a new page on that topic. The thread has a dialogue box. Navigate to the title of the thread below, click on the title and a dialogue box will opein. This allows us to manage the thread and reply to it either with or without copying the earlier thread. Generally, I just reply and assume the reader has read the earlier thread text.

It may take some practice in getting used to this new fomat, but bear with me and we'll have a really quick effective way for exchanging information. This page is more a "practice", since this wikiwebsite is not all that secure. Our Joint Venture wikiweb site will be at the highest security which wetpaint provides. Below is the beginning of the discourse. Correspondence is in reverse date order.

For really important trade secrets need to be encrypted and and copy to a CD and mailed via postal surface mail. We need mailing addresses.
Jim
Oct. 5, 2008
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WHO/WHAT IS THE TRUSTED SOURCE OF BIOSCIENCE IN OREGON? --Oregon Bioscience Institute could bridge the information gaps and provide leadership via the new communication service, the wikiwebsite. By Jim Miller
Won't democracy be endangered if the newspaper audience shrinks down to this hard core? Not at all. As far back as 1940, the sociologist Paul Lazarsfeld discovered that voters get their information from one another as much as from direct consumption of the media. He called this the "two-step flow" from opinion leaders to the general public. The Internet is enhancing that two-step flow, converting it to a many-step flow. The problem is not distributing the information. The problem is maintaining a strong and trusted agency to originate it.”The Elite Newspaper of the Future; http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=4605 Newsletters are old technology, fashioned after written pamphlets, leaflets, newspapers and other print media. E-newsletters fall into the same trap of trying to be comprehensive and appeal to a wide audience on a large variety of issues. Mostly, the print and electronic newsletters reflect the opinions and politics of the editors, publishers and sometimes the authors. These newsletters are labor intensive for the "owner" and need paid advertising to exist or some other source of funding. We can do better with the current, generally accepted technology of wikiwebs, forums, blogs, RSS feeds, favorites and "personal news wires". Those who advocate the print or digital newsletter are working in the dark because they cannot find or know what the readers are really interested in reading -- which is a moving target. The experiments I've been making with style and format of Wetpaint wikiwebs has finally jelled into my newest wikiweb, Chrysler Electric Auto Company, My lead article is at: http://chyslerelectricautocompany.wetpaint.com/page/STOP+THE+GM-CHRYSLER+SERIAL+ECONOMIC+RAPE+OF+AMERICA

The main point of the wikiweb as a platform is that we are, for the most part, all "owners" of the medium of communication. We can "own a page". We can select the subjects we want to follow -- a sort of custom, personalized newspaper which is free, instant, globally accessible, and easy to edit, delete and add to. I say let the BEC newsletter die a peaceful death and let's get going on the wiki approach. We can polish the style, format and post some really good stuff. The objective is to create a highly respected source of good information on bioscience as one of the legs of sustainability. We don't have to wait until the next edition of an e-newsletter is supposed to come out; now is the time to add to the content when the ideas are flowing. We can use Wikipedia as a model and hyperlink our citations and allow for navigation forwards and backwards, other then by the Back Arrow. We need not only the pure science and engineering, we all so the applied science and engineering. We also need the means to bring the products and services to market by way of worker and worker/consumer cooperatives. For that we need start-up capital and grow-up capital. Here again, the wiki plays an important part for networking folks and resources - a domestic KIVA approach. The initiative which will work is to create and fund a Locavore Credit Union for each community. I've create one which can be the model. See: http://sharecdcu.wetpaint.com/ We can create wikis and pages at any intellectual level needed to match any audience. We do not have dumb-down all articles to the sixth grade level like the newspapers do to keep the span of attention under six minutes. There is another revolution coming, that of interactive multi-cast, audio/video conferencing, which is the subject of World Cyber Cafe: http://worldcybercafe.wetpaint.com/ Jim Miller jimmmiller5417@yahoo.com October 298, 2008




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10/28/08

Bill:

I have the beginnings of a Neighbor-to-Neighbor waste collection and treatment plan. It involves hand carts and golf carts (with and without small trailers). The area would be about four blocks by four blocks. We would form a 501.c.4 and contract with one of the members who owns a corner lot with side-street access and a large, mostly empty, rear lot. We could use the garage or build a second "garage" or shed.
The neighbors bring their yard waste and kitchen waste to the shed where it is chipped and shredded. The course chips can be used in an off-site syngas and biochar operation. The fine material would be use in composting.

The composters would be used blow-molded Poly tanks, usually found on farms which previously held fertilizers. I would pressure wash these tanks, which are about six to eight feet in diameter and about six feet tall. I would mount these tanks on a steel pipe frame so they rotate at 90 degrees from their normal position. I would cut two trap doors on the round side, next to each other. These tanks are mounted high enough to allow us to put a wheelbarow under each trap door to collect the finished compost or worm castings.

The feedstock would be fed into the composters until about half to 2/3rds full. After a week or so, the tank would be turned using a geared hand crank, so as to mix. Fresh kitchen waste would also be added. There needs to be five turnings, over say five weeks. Then the worms are introduced and they process the compost for another three to five weeks.

The finished compost is then run through a trammel screen and the worms and their eggs extracted for reinjection. The compost can be used in the N2N gardens or bagged and sold, or sold in bulk.

This project would need City approval and some permits; I don't see any problem. The tanks are closed so no flies or ordors. The area is large enough with sufficient number of population so that membership so it is entiely voluntary, yet sustainable.

The operation needs a steady source of animal manure -- so we would have to bring in cow or horse manure from dairies and/horse operations. The ratio is 25 to 30 parts cellulose and 1 part manure. So we might also need a pile of sawdust in case not enough woody waste is brought in.
The members get their compensation by exchanging fresh waste for worm castings. The legal structure is a tax-exempt, mutual benefit corporation, gifts to which are NOT deductible,but who cares? We form a corporation, do the planning, get the permits, do the contract with the composting site and then do a subscription drive.

Over time, the group might want to buy a suitable corner lot and use the house as headquarters for the group, managed by a member who lives there, rent free as part of the compensation for managing the operation.

Now the project gets interesting. My article on the Locavore Credit Union becomes relevant. My new Wikiweb, SHARE Community Development Credit Union, takes center stage. See: http://sharecdcu.wetpaint.com/page/THE+SHARE+LOCAL+LOAN+PROGRAM.
When we have our first N2N working, other neighboorhoods will replicate our operation. This would be an OPEN SOURCE project.
Jim


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JAMES E. MILLER 530 NW 13th St. Corvallis, OR 97330 Wired: 541-757-9797 Skype: jimmiller5417 wireless: 541-971-0403 Email: jimmiller5417@yahoo.com
October 24, 2008

Mr. Troy J. Campione
Senior Vice President of Business Development
partnering@solazyme.com

Solazyme, Inc.
561 Eccles Avenue
South San Francisco, CA 94080
Main: (650) 780-4777
Fax: (650) 989-6700
info@solazyme.com

Re: Algal Oil Extraction.
Dear Mr. Campione:
Does Solazyme have any interest in algal oil extraction technology? Please find attached my recent article, PROSPECTS FOR THE BIODIESEL INDUSTRY which you are free to copy and republish with attribution. Please note that my discovery of extraction technology is documented, but not tested in a lab or prototype plant.
Congratulations on Solazyme's deal with Imperium Renewables.
Sincerely yours,

James E. Miller, BA, BS, JD



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Hello, as you can see I managed to open this page at last! Let me choose the orange characters.

[Jim's reply color is BLUE. Each of us should pick a different color for his comments for replies, but keep to black for the original document/mail.]
--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Thész János <thesz@t-online.hu> wrote:

Many thanks for your quick response and also for your ideas. Here are some remarks and some suggestions on how to proceed:
- "private contract between producer of fuel and a specific customer" on selling/buying/using the given fuel, without it having approval from the authorities: that would be nice and well, but in theory any novel fuel might have noxious emissions, corrosiveness to motor parts, etc., so it is hard to think of any one "specific customer" without his demanding some sort of specifications/certificates on the fuel, to convince himself of its applicability. So please kindly check out this as the outcome might determine the course we are to take. See Thread Below

With some basic instrumentation we can keep our product batches checked (viscosity, pH, etc.) along the lines set for conventional BD. Thus we can create a kind of "in-house specification" for quality controlling the manufacturing process. However, basic info on TBK-BD, such as cetane number, heat of combustion, etc. sooner or later has to be acquired via accredited institutions.

- we ourselves are experiencing how difficult it is to get big companies out of the rut. Very true. So in the present case the unused BD facilities you are mentioning might be of great help for us for take-off, see on this below.

- fate of algae residues: the issue is to be put off until production has started and market surveys have been conducted. Most biodiesel chemists are likely to esxpress doubt about the process ability to transestify the glycerol into esters which do not gum the fuel system. There is some discussion and lab work on this point in the NREL's Closing Report. What do the current lab test show?

Here I meant what to do with cell membranes, etc.

As to glycerol esters (which are the main components of TBK-BD): SVO (1), cuphea oil (2), triacetin (3) that is triacetylated glycerol, an additve to BD to lower freezing point, are ALL glycerol esters. Their inferiority consists in their high viscosity [(1) and (2)] and low heat of combustion [(3)] and NOT in their ability to gum.

- geothermal sites: I will go through your paper to gain some basic knowledge of this
- proposal to the US department of energy: let this be our last resort, OK as only well-founded projects (that is having all sorts of tests results, performed at great costs) may have any chance of getting supports, I reckon. You're right. Some years ago I appied for a $75,000 grant to conduct a field feasibility test. It was turned down. The funder wanted me to have first conducted the feasibility test on my own money, then they would decide whether to grant the money. Dr. Dave Sands stated that is how government grants work. -- do the project, write the report but don't publish it, get the grant and use the money for the successor project/study and so on.
- "pilot plants": for the time being let us separate algal oil production from fuel manufacture, as the latter might become able to finance the needs of the former, as you have remarked While I vastly prefer the "package deal" approach, I am mindful of your comment and will work diligently on both. My approach has nothing to do with the merits of either, just the fact that when one is asking for money, it is usually easier to raise a larger amount than a smaller amout. In the investor's mind, the combined projects spread the risks -- one is bound to succeed. Since the investor writes the check it is hard to argue with the investor on this issue.

We will need a source of algal oil for long term viability of the JV. Seed oil is already too expensive and has a large carbon footprint. Algal oil is cheap by comparison and has a small carbon footprint. This is what green lenders and green investors want to hear. For start-up, we can us WVO from Oregon State University and from commercial kitchens in Corvallis.

Sure, availability of algal oil is pivotal for our success (and for the BD business as a whole)

- wikiwebsite: please go on with it, and many thanks for it. Please send us your draft on this. We need a NAME. Suggestions? Consider:

Amicus Terra Biofuels (Earth Friendly Biofuels which could include syngas and others).
Amicus Energia Aqua (Translates to Friendly energy from the water)

To much Latin in them. Will think about it.


- biochar: good luck to it!

Please supply dtails on the Echo BD plant (capacity, whether worked batch or continuous-wise, etc.) so that we can see if we could start experimental production of TBK-BD in it. I will in due time. Right now, let's focus on getting funding for our pilot plants, one in Oregon and one in Hunary. When I present the propoal to Madison Farms, I should have a fully developed business plan with hard evidence on costs and some financing in the offing.

If I were an investor I would say to Jim and Janos: first you produce a couple of gallons of TBK-BD from your algal oil, then prove that buses/cars can run on it, without any damage to motors, producing accepted leves of emission, and all this you can do economically, yielding at least 15-20% profits for me, and with a return on investment of 2-3 years at the worst.

Costs of pilot plant: based on our lab data (consumption norms of raw materials, energy requirement, residence time in the reactor, recycling of ethyl acetate, etc.) a professional designing office has to be involved. And the same holds for your process.


If we so decide, we must make a deal with its owner, something like this (or we might rent his facilities, as you are proposing it, but in such a case we must find a financier Agreed):

in his production line (following some required modifications suiting the new process) he produces a couple of experimental batches of TBK-BD of the same feedstock as was his source for BD. All pertaining costs should be covered by him, that would be his investment (risk) into a potentially precious product. (We must do our best to convince him that siding with us -- i.e. spending a couple of thousand dollars -- is better than having his plant shut on account of the present BD crisis, attributable to scarcity of veg oil and high costs of production. And the potentials of your algal oil and our TBK-BD are well worth such contribution. ). I doubt that Madison Farms is willing to put any money into the plant. We would be lucky to get it on any reasonable terms. Kent Madison farms 19,000 acres of Canola, crushes it, and sends the oil to SeQuential Biofuels which makes it into biodiesel. Madison has a long term contract with the City of Portland to supply biodiesel for its trucks and busses. His interest in other technology is slight. He is willing to let me use 20 to 30 acres of his land for free for the pilot algae ponds. I also asked for 1400 acres and he indicated he would be willing to rent it to me. Kent is highly regarded by the Oregon Department of Energy and the Governor's office. OR DOE has an energy loan fund. I have had same correspondence with its loan officer. Basically, we need cash equity in hand from an investor, and OR DOE will match that amount on a low interest loan. I would want to proceed very carefully, fully documented with an investor in hand willing to put up the equity half (or greater share).


Then we evaluate the process as well as the product and see its economics as compared to conventional BD. If it works and if we find outlets in the meantime for the product then the three of us will contract. Ideally, as you have observed, TBK-BD production could finance your experiments, erection of an algal oil extraction pilot plant and the like. (Naturally, any other BD producer could serve the purpose, once you manage to find one). As to demonstrating our process in Oregon: it is awfully simple, we send over our recipe and any qualified personnel can perform the act, so unsophisticated is our method. Preferably this should be conducted by our picked partner, to see for himself the mild reaction parameters, to assess the degree of required modifications of his BD plant and the like. I'm agreeable. As soon as you get the EU patent, and a US.. patent, then we can do as you suggest on a license I will prepare.

It may take years (!) to get the patent as our application has been published this August. I know of many BD applications back from 2004/2005, still pending.

- JV company: only after we have demonstrated to yourself (and to a possible third partner) our process/product, have assessed viability issues, etc. would we feel it appropriate to form a JV with yourselves. This by no means should hinder creation of our joint wikiweb. For a subtitle I would suggest the "Novel biofuel from novel source" slogan. Most investors want a "no risk" or "low risk" investment and anything "novel" might cause concern. We need a motto along the lines "Our process is bullet proof".
- project management: in your person we have all we need for success (and we won't require a legal counsellor either! Of course we need an attorney -- me. One cannot safely do business in the US without an attorney and a certified public accountant at his side.). And the support of an energetic young man (our greetings to Mr Lafler) would only lessen burden on us!
With regards,
J. Thesz
P.S. just received your fresh mail. Will comment. (When do you sleep?)




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Janos on 04/10/08
- "private contract between producer of fuel and a specific customer" on selling/buying/using the given fuel, without it having approval from the authorities: that would be nice and well, but in theory any novel fuel might have noxious emissions, corrosiveness to motor parts, etc., so it is hard to think of any one "specific customer" without his demanding some sort of specifications/certificates on the fuel, to convince himself of its applicability. So please kindly check out this as the outcome might determine the course we are to take.

Jim on 05/10/08
I will keep working on the private contract issue. I agree that for product liability purposes, we need to run our own test, at least pH, ash, viscosity, free fatty acids. Rather than putting a great deal of money into a high class chem lab, I suggest we consider buying a near-infra red spectrometer. I have research notes spread around my hard disk and on my Favorites list. I will be adding a full page on this testing as time permits. Then we can really dig into the testing issue. Testing is VERY important.

There is a UK Standards organization which may be our entry point to develop the test rubrics for biodiesel, a zero sum approach using the NIR test equipment and procedures. Meanwhile, I have a WARRANTY which will be embedded in the private contract which reduces our exposure to product liability.


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